Curse

keli · Aug 04, 2008, 05:10 PM // 17:10

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Originally Posted by BlackSephir

SS skills now only work in Realm of Torment? WOW!! Play the damned game, maybe then we will have something to talk about.

What's wrong with that?

Oh, i was talking about lb.(sorry for it) But anyway ss skills do not "make your life easier" just tntf, the others sux. So again you don't need to grind for them to get a group or get an easier pve.

Tyla · Aug 04, 2008, 05:16 PM // 17:16

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Originally Posted by keli

Oh, i was talking about lb. But anyway ss skills do not "make your life easier" just tntf, the others sux

Cry of Pain, in numbers has the most killing power in the game if done right.

Eternal Aura allows a permanent god form. Perma-Melandru could give you a non-elite RC with spammable deep wound and immunity to all conditions.

Whirlwind Attack is the AoE for any melee weapon.

Necrosis is a non-elite but better Discord.

Seed of Life is a strong party healing pressure relief skill.

Long story short: I lol'd.

Abedeus · Aug 04, 2008, 05:21 PM // 17:21

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Originally Posted by Tender Wolf

And the Luxon/Kurzick titles are account-based, but they also require grinding in AB and a lot more points. So how are they different than the rep points in GWEN or SS/LB? I see no difference.

You can get 400 kurzick points, 2k exp and 150 gold in a minute with NO skill. Not telling that Norn require skill, but it takes a bit longer and is a bit harder to get.

keli · Aug 04, 2008, 05:23 PM // 17:23

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Originally Posted by Tyla

Cry of Pain, in numbers has the most killing power in the game if done right.

Eternal Aura allows a permanent god form. Perma-Melandru could give you a non-elite RC with spammable deep wound and immunity to all conditions.

Whirlwind Attack is the AoE for any melee weapon.

Necrosis is a non-elite but better Discord.

Seed of Life is a strong party healing pressure relief skill.

Long story short: I lol'd.

Okay, as you guys say mesmers arent used in pve so cry of pain is out. (btw, its worse than liquid flame..)
Permaform is not imbalanced, since in pve you can stop anytime, and wait for it to recharge, whirlwind attack is like cyclone axe just +10dmg, necrosis sux, it is only good for farming, seed of life 5 sec? yeah only in ursan teams. Long story short: These skills are nothing to ursan and other GWEN imba skills, so no need to cry for ss-accountwide.

Tyla · Aug 04, 2008, 05:30 PM // 17:30

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Originally Posted by keli

Okay, as you guys say mesmers arent used in pve so cry of pain is out. (btw, its worse than liquid flame..)

Cry of Pain isn't linked to an attribute, and it's armour ignoring damage. Cheap Mesmer hex, lots of people hitting Cry of Pain and voila, everything's dead.

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Permaform is not imbalanced, since in pve you can stop anytime, and wait for it to recharge,

Sorry, but you think immunity to conditions is balanced?

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whirlwind attack is like cyclone axe just +10dmg,

The idea of the skill is to build adrenaline. This skill allows Earth Shaker to be chained indefinately, more AoE damage off swords or axes too and synergy with Splinter Weapon also makes it a strong skill. It also fuels adrenaline faster.

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necrosis sux, it is only good for farming,

Hence why Discordway blows most enemies up in PvE within ~6 seconds?

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seed of life 5 sec? yeah only in ursan teams.

Use it on someone taking heavy damage, it heals your party tons while "mitigating" the damage minorly.

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Long story short: These skills are nothing to ursan and other GWEN imba skills, so no need to cry for ss-accountwide.

Cryway is undoubtably among the three strongest PvE builds. Physical overload and Ursan also are in this.

As for "crying about SS going account wide", I'm not bothered whether it does or doesn't. The thing is grind is bad in the first place, and is against this game's original design. It also has benefits. No one gives a shit how little, it still gives benefits.

Molock · Aug 04, 2008, 05:31 PM // 17:31

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Originally Posted by keli

Okay, as you guys say mesmers arent used in pve so cry of pain is out. (btw, its worse than liquid flame..)

How is 100 armor ignoring damage worse than 105 (at 14 fire magic) armor affected damage??

DarkNecrid · Aug 04, 2008, 05:34 PM // 17:34

So this thread doesn't get derailed, let's just all agree keli doesn't know what he is talking about (Tyla said mesmers never get used in PvE when??) and move on.

K?

K.

On topic: I'm sorta excited for this update now. It's either gonna hook me til GW2, or end my love for the game. Both things I oddly want. Hm.

Conflicted....

Earth · Aug 04, 2008, 05:34 PM // 17:34

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Originally Posted by Tender Wolf

And the Luxon/Kurzick titles are account-based, but they also require grinding in AB and a lot more points. So how are they different than the rep points in GWEN or SS/LB? I see no difference.

They are PvP titles. There's your difference. EDIT nvm I forgot about FFF.

IMO, PvE titles shouldn't be account wide, but then again I don't really care about grinding. Gives me something extra to do

Shadowspawn X · Aug 04, 2008, 05:38 PM // 17:38

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Originally Posted by Tender Wolf

Agreed. As was mentioned, I don't think anyone likes grinding. But even if they do make it account-wide, it'll still take forever to get to the max rank on all those things. So it should be account-wide. You do it once, you shouldn't do it again.

It doesn't take forever ,but it is a horrible mechanic. I did every quest and dungeon in EoTN both in HM and NM and was still horribly short of maxing all rep titles even after vanquishing. I ended up playing though the storyline three times more in HM just to max all the titles. Now at that point I was completely burnt out on EoTN and to do it again on another character is out of the question. The repetition was outrageous and destroyed the experience of what was a decent expansion. I'm not a fan of the account -wide movement that everyone and their mother seems to think is the solution for every title they are having trouble getting. I never want people to roll
PvP toons and pre-searing toons that automatically have a KoaBD rank instantly as to make a further joke out of that title as if ursan hasn't already pissed all over it. Also there is a problem with changing titles months and years after they were implemented. Its really not fair to the people who played before the current batch of people who got the titles as they stand. Why Anet would accommodate a fourth or fifth generation player and make the game easier while throwing all those who came before those players under the bus is a disturbing practice. I would rather they take note of the complaints and never use this mechanic in the game again.

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Originally Posted by Tender Wolf

And the Luxon/Kurzick titles are account-based, but they also require grinding in AB and a lot more points. So how are they different than the rep points in GWEN or SS/LB? I see no difference.

People have been maxing this title for over two years, if you are not willing to meet the standards of the title move on its not going to get dummed down just for you.

Jensy · Aug 04, 2008, 05:42 PM // 17:42

I don't see how they could make Sunspear account-wide, only because of the way earning points works when getting your attributes on NF characters. They'd need to change those two quests around completely, and then... well, that's a lot of work for a title.

Tyla · Aug 04, 2008, 05:50 PM // 17:50

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Originally Posted by pansy malfoy

I don't see how they could make Sunspear account-wide, only because of the way earning points works when getting your attributes on NF characters. They'd need to change those two quests around completely, and then... well, that's a lot of work for a title.

I'd rather see them from level 1, but since level 20 doesn't take alot of work to get to I'll really be fine with that since it's an improvement.

Less grind is better, especially when people want the highest rank possible because it enhances you, or anything to do with you.

fleshharvest · Aug 04, 2008, 05:59 PM // 17:59

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Originally Posted by keli

Okay, as you guys say mesmers arent used in pve so cry of pain is out. (btw, its worse than liquid flame..)
Permaform is not imbalanced, since in pve you can stop anytime, and wait for it to recharge, whirlwind attack is like cyclone axe just +10dmg, necrosis sux, it is only good for farming, seed of life 5 sec? yeah only in ursan teams. Long story short: These skills are nothing to ursan and other GWEN imba skills, so no need to cry for ss-accountwide.

Critical Agility. +25 armor and perma ias.

MithranArkanere · Aug 04, 2008, 06:13 PM // 18:13

Well, the thing I see coming nearer is the HoM update and some skill changes.
They are the ones on top of the list.

But Linsey's Specialty is area, quest and NPC making... and she was the one left with GW... so...

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Originally Posted by Knight O Cydonia

Ursan for all!

BOOOO!

Ok, Ursan for none!

BOOOO!

Err, Ursan for some, and not for others!

YAAAAY!

Actually, those where the aliens: Kodos and her sister Kang:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._and_Kodos.png

Dwarf Teh Guru · Aug 04, 2008, 06:14 PM // 18:14

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Originally Posted by Massive Fire Balls

DOWUT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE STILL PLAY GW DAILY??????????????? AND THEY ALL USE URSAN

QFT

/Threadwin, who cares about gw1 anymore anyway.

Massive Fire Balls · Aug 04, 2008, 06:22 PM // 18:22

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Originally Posted by Dwarf Teh Guru

QFT

/Threadwin, who cares about gw1 anymore anyway.

WOOOO FINALLY QUOTED
SOMEONE ELSE QUOTE ME GOGO

Dwarf Teh Guru · Aug 04, 2008, 06:26 PM // 18:26

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Originally Posted by Massive Fire Balls

WOOOO FINALLY QUOTED
SOMEONE ELSE QUOTE ME GOGO

For if u didnt realise that, that was sarcasm.

Gtfo.

ps, i still love you.

Massive Fire Balls · Aug 04, 2008, 06:27 PM // 18:27

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Originally Posted by Dwarf Teh Guru

For if u didnt realise that, that was sarcasm.

Gtfo.

ps, i still love you.

I still love you too some1 quote this1

Abedeus · Aug 04, 2008, 06:29 PM // 18:29

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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

Actually, those where the aliens: Kodos and her sister Kang:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._and_Kodos.png

FINALLY someone noticed it. And it wasn't ,,Abortions for some, not for others'' but ,,Abortions for some, American flags for everyone!''. Dunno which episode, though it was Halloween Special. Probably one of 8-15's.

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dummed down just for you.

Before something can be dummed down, it must be smart at the beginning. AB or HFFF were never smart.

keli · Aug 04, 2008, 06:44 PM // 18:44

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Originally Posted by Tyla

Cry of Pain isn't linked to an attribute, and it's armour ignoring damage. Cheap Mesmer hex, lots of people hitting Cry of Pain and voila, everything's dead.

Sorry, but you think immunity to conditions is balanced?

The idea of the skill is to build adrenaline. This skill allows Earth Shaker to be chained indefinately, more AoE damage off swords or axes too and synergy with Splinter Weapon also makes it a strong skill. It also fuels adrenaline faster.

Hence why Discordway blows most enemies up in PvE within ~6 seconds?

Use it on someone taking heavy damage, it heals your party tons while "mitigating" the damage minorly.

Cryway is undoubtably among the three strongest PvE builds. Physical overload and Ursan also are in this.

As for "crying about SS going account wide", I'm not bothered whether it does or doesn't. The thing is grind is bad in the first place, and is against this game's original design. It also has benefits. No one gives a shit how little, it still gives benefits.

Immunity to conditions? It is the skill itself, not the ss skill.

The idea to build adrenailne? Crude Swing anyone, its the same as whirlwind just you need energy instead of adrenaline(wich is better). Or cyclone axe? Or hundread blades? These are just the same as whirlwind... so whirlwind is not overpowerd but a good skill.

Wow discordwa? Never heard of it.

Seed of life? Only good in elite areas where you have a tank..

If cryway is that good, then why the hell cries the community for a huge mesmer buff, eh? (ignorance is bliss ?! )

I think i leave this thread, there is no point to write here...

keli · Aug 04, 2008, 06:50 PM // 18:50

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Originally Posted by fleshharvest

Critical Agility. +25 armor and perma ias.

Yes this is a good skill but not imbalanced. Why? Assasins arent good in pve ( okay perma sf farm ftw )

You can write moebius + death blossom comb, but it far away from a searing heat or splinter.